I was recently contacted by Rose DesRochers to visit and join Today’s Woman. I was then asked if I would contribute an article. Being an internet publisher myself, I said sure. I’m happy to help out a fellow internet rag. Before I knew it, I was being badgered about when it would be ready for publication, as if it were an emergency. As I have a family, full-time employment, attend college full-time and am in the middle of remodeling both of my internet publications, my free time is limited. Unfortunately, I was not able to write the piece in as timely a manner as I wished, taking a week to find the time to finish the requested article. I submitted said article, which I wrote as a favor to her, this afternoon. A few hours later, Rose wants to chat with me by IM. At the same time, I’m talking on the phone with a reporter in Florida and have little attention-span left to devote to her IM message. While I’m talking with the highly professional and pleasant reporter, she proceeds to go off on a rant via instant messenger, insulting my manhood, informing me that my word is no good and cancels my membership (I joined at her request) in Today’s Woman.
Ummm, okay. Nice.
In true cowardly fashion, she ends her rant by telling me I don’t need to respond. Being a glutton for punishment and apparently not too bright, I responded anyway and informed her that I had already submitted an article for her review. At this point in the IM beat-down I was receiving, I was no longer interested in participating in her website. However, I was interested in observing where this meltdown would end up. So, she apologized. I then informed her that what she did was insulting and unsatisfactory behavior. She then told me that I insulted her by not emailing to inform her I couldn’t finish the piece by the date I set for myself.
Well, a few things to consider with regard to her perceived “insult.”
1 – I am not getting paid by Today’s Woman. Anything I would have contributed to her website was for her benefit. I’m not in need of additional clips of that type for my portfolio.
2 – Rose approached me to join.
3 – Immediately after joining, she began pitching me hard to write an article for the website.
4 – Rose attached a false urgency to the request. Unlike me, she doesn’t publish issues on a set calendar. Further, the website had constant new content during the week between her request for an article and my submission of said article.
5 – When I was unable to meet the request in less than a week’s time from introduction to submission, Rose chose to insult my manhood, basically called me a liar, and then cancelled the membership I obtained at her request. Then she apologized and cried victim.
Now, I’m no Rupert Murdoch, but I have been publishing online since early 1997 and have learned a few things along the way. Among the authors included in my internet magazines are Ph.D. scientists, anthropologists, sociologists, international civil liberties activists, published novelists and nonfiction authors. In fact, many of these individuals, or their representatives, initially contacted me with content submissions. As my publications pay in exposure and furtherance of one’s viewpoint or message rather than financially, I greatly appreciate every submission and deal with each author as if they are my saving grace for that particular issue. I see no reason to insult authors who are contributing to my publications without financial gain. Whether they complete a project in the timeframe I wish, or not, is irrelevant to the fact that they are volunteering their time without significant compensation. So, in exchange for their free content, I am sometimes at the mercy of their hectic schedules. The trade-off for such flexibility is cost-free, high quality submissions. Insulting someone holds no gain for me and it certainly does nothing to build goodwill in the industry. Further, its just plain rude.
Rose asked me to write for her, badgered me about a submission date when it was not necessary to do so, and has now alienated yet another individual involved in online publishing. In spite of all the typos and poor grammar that plague her website, I was still willing to contribute an occasional article or commentary. That was shot to pieces in a few short moments, as she unloaded both barrels on me via instant messenger.
And what was her gain? The Hell if I know, but I certainly wish I’d ignored that first email.
Heidi at VirusHead Random Musings recently had an interesting exchange of emails with her as well.
UPDATE: A sample of the clouded thinking that is Rose DesRochers is reprinted below from our last instant messenger conversation.
Rose says: How good is a man's word when he falls short on it?
Hmm, that's a nice start, given she had begged me for a submission then badgered me repeatedly for a submission date that I told her would have to be flexible due to my other commitments.
Rose says: You can not really take a man seriously when he has said one thing yet done another. His professionism and intrgity soons to loose all affect. Respect is a two way street and when one gives there word they should hold true to it.
I'm not sure what it means to "done another." Nor do I follow her illiterate rambling about "professionism and intrgity soons to loose all affect." It is extremely hard to take someone seriously when they misspell or misuse five out of eight words in a string. Further, one does not give "there word."
Rose says: Thank you for the offer to use your articles but I won't be using them and no need to reply. Take care
Strangely enough, Rose begged me for content the first day I joined. Further, I joined todays-woman.net AT HER REQUEST. She then badgered me for a solid week to hurry up and make a submission. After I submitted the requested article, she promptly cancelled my membership and insulted me. Then she tops it off by condescendingly thanking me for an "offer" I didn't make. This is all very weird, given that I had only agreed to write for todays-woman.net at her request. I never offered her the use of any article. What she did was completely unprofessional and quite rude.
She goes on to claim I insulted her by referring to her as "Miss Rose," instead of "Mrs. Rose." How is "Miss Rose" an insult, given I used it in an informal, familiar manner and did not include her last name? I did not refer to her as "Miss Rose DesRochers," as that would have been incorrect. Instead, I referred to her informally by her first name and "Miss," in a manner common in some parts of the Southern United States. It is meant as a sign of familiarity and friendliness, not an insult. I find this whole issue of the "insult" fascinating, given that she referred to me as James and Jim from the very start, assuming such a level of familiarity without pause. I merely reciprocated. Not once was I referred to as "Mr. Landrith." Perhaps I should be the one feeling insulted.
The woman clearly has issues – or as my wife would say, "subscriptions." I advise other poets and internet publishers to save themselves some time and unnecessary drama by steering clear of Rose DesRochers and todays-woman.net. Rose responds below and I dissect it:
Rose said: "Thank you for the glorious review. May I ask what do I owe this honor?
Your behaviour. See above. Its quite easy to comprehend.
Rose said: "I think you forgot to inform your readers how you made advantages to me and how you said that you could be persuaded to submit articles.
No one made "advantages" to anyone. Whatever that illiterate spewing is supposed to mean. Again, with the misspelled words. Further, no one said they could be "persuaded" to submit articles. You clearly asked.
Rose said: " You also said you like clumsy, cuteness and brainless women."
No stupid. You asked if batting your eyes at me would get me to send you a submission. Jokingly I responded that it would also take a hairflip. Its called humour, look into it.
Rose said: " And to think that you are married."
Yes, I am married and to a professional editor who can spell.
Rose said: "Might I also point out that I offered you to join and submit your reprint articles. Never were you requested or asked to write for Today's Woman."
Again, you asked me. Then clumsily attempted to flirt with me. I was kind and left that out of my initial posting here. Since you want it public, you get your way.
Rose said: " However thank you for all the unwanted attention and next time you ramble, please see that you don't leave out important facts."
No one left out important facts. You, however, need to find your dictionary.
Rose said: " Your wife might just like to know that you are a dog."
I was born in the Year of the Dog, but I'm not an actual dog. Silly, silly Rose. Further, I tend to like my women with more visible melanin content. I'm not interested in an affair with you, nor are you "my type." Is that easy enough for you to comprehend?
Rose said: "Also thank you once again for this glorious post; it makes you look even more unprofessional."
Umm, okay. If that's what helps you sleep at night.
There is even more here, in response to her false accusations and online spewings with regard to this incident.
UPDATE: Apparently, Rose attempted (under false pretenses) to have my website deleted from Google's index on the basis that I, um, um, um, – get this – allow readers to comment on blog entries. I shit you not.
From her forum (http://www.todays-woman.net/ftopicp-37092.html):
James Landrith keeps the comments open on his blog, just to drive traffic to his website. Last month my name was searched 68 times. If you wish to increase traffic to your website, just use my name on your blog or webpage. I’ve reported James offending blog to Google in an attempt to have it removed from Google’s search results, but I doubt they will remove it.
Sorry to disappoint, but Google doesn't delete websites simply because Ms. Desrochers has ordered the website owner to close said websites to comments. Rose, you don't own my domain, nor do you have a case with Google for having me deleted, which is further indicated by your total failure to have my website blacklisted. Further, I keep the comments open on all my blog entries – not just those dealing with your nasty, childish, slanderous attacks with regard to me. This is the case, whether you, in arrogant defiance of the harm you've caused others, demand said comments be closed or not.
You need to grow up.
Please get over yourself. If it is fame and a glorious review that you are looking for be sure to check out my blog. Ta-Ta
“Rose DesRochers has been banned from half the writers’ sites on the Internet and unfortunately, what she did to you is how she spends a typical night.
She had approximately 900 postings about other people and companies on scam.com before she got banned from there and she even managed to cause trouble on a site for people grieving the loss of a child!
Her biggest problem is that she cannot read beyond a grade four or five level and misunderstands most of what people write. She actually has an article on the net, that, until she corrected it, included this quote: “I believe life begins at the moment of contraception.” She actually argued with those who pointed out the problem.
She also sent out “cease and exist” orders to countless companies (was that a death threat..hahah) and used to say her website was protected by the US Constitution. She’s in Canada and her site is in Canada!! Go figure.
Prior to being banned from WritersWeekly.com she was usually the first one to post ROFLMAO in response to posters who made a typo.”
I began compiling the nasty things Rose does into a blog, bery entertaining. I have already had a few people submit very interesting links:)
http://zerofunk.freeonlineblogs.com/
The blog roll has great links:)
oops. sorry for the typo.
I had just joined her site in December and was immediately banned because I didn’t post my poetry right the second I joined.
Excuse me but when you have two kids and a family,you have to put them first. Not even a day went by and I was banned. I introduced myself and all. wtf? She ranted via email we exchanged a few words that was the end of it.
Then today ran acrossed her old posts on this other site and she flipped out on a whole bunch of people.
4/7/2006 3:18:00
Oh forgot to add this,www.icq.com was the sight of her carnage back in 2003. I don’t think there was a person there that didnt insult. Type in Desert Rose in search and behold many blood baths. Sorry for the double post couldn’t think of the sight at the moment of the last post. Good day.
4/7/2006 3:22:00
You should visit bloggerforum.com, rose aka swtrose is unleashing her brand of attacks there as well.
5/21/2006 11:05:00 PM
Rose is a dangerous narcissistic psycho. Run screaming!!
http://forums.writersweekly.com/viewtopic.php?t=4120
This says it all about this internet psycho. She does think she’s above the law – guess what? She’s not. She’s violated Canadian privacy law and she’s going to get sued. She keeps threatening to sue people – I wish she would – they could probably use her money.
Rose will stop at nothing to prove anyone wrong that have view contradicting hers. What a loser.
6/20/2006 11:06:00 AM
Pimp Daddy, I don’t have a clue who you are unless you are the creator of pimpfants, though I dought that.
2smart4u how about posting under your real name seeing how you have so much to say about me. I’ve not violated any Canadian laws and if I’m going to be sued, then bring it on.
Anne, yada yada.
O Tay, well I know who you are. Why did you have to post under a anonymous name? I invite everyone to visit bloggerforum. You’ll see me assisting, not attacking.
Laurie, I have no idea who you are and the system sends out notification after 30 days of inactivity. We have a few members who have been inactive for six months or more. The system notifies them, not I. If I flipped out on a bunch of people, where is the link to those posts? Hmmm!
Amazed, I was banned from one writing website. I don’t think Writers Weekly classifies as half the sites on the internet. I leave you this link for your reading pleasure. [URL=http://forums.writersweekly.com/viewtopic.php?t=4964&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=8e370e97d9eb7ec3e771cadaf2479c2b]Worst experience reading an article[/URL]
I was never banned from any Grief and bereavement website.
[URL=http://www.todays-woman.net/poetry-scams-51.html]Zerofunk[/URL] then please explain to me why you purchased rose-desrochers.com & todays-woman-sucks.net, if you are the victim? I do appreciate that you have not bothered me in several months. This does show me a change in you perhaps.
James, I?m disappointed that you would still allow individuals to comment on this.
You know by checking the ips that they are most of the same users commenting on both posts. I?ve apologize to you numerous of times.
Well, there is nothing that I can do about it and I?ll continue to be the subject of those who have nothing better to do then post crap about me, my husband and my children.
Most of those posting to your blog have never had any correspondences with me.
I?ve even had some people flame my children?s blogs.
I?ve deleted all mention of you from my site. I did it a couple days after posting it and despite the fact that you now have three posts about me, I will not post about you.
I strongly believe in forgiveness and giving people second chances. If you?ve done someone wrong, you should go to that person and make it right, but if they will not forgive you then you must move on.
Again I?m sorry for any trouble I?ve caused you and I wish the best for you and your family.
Respectfully, Rose
Rose:
You can be as disappointed as you like about how I manage my own property. However, had you learned from past experience and acted appropriately in the first place, there would be nothing to talk about. I have heard from enough people who have endured similar experiences at your hands. Despite the two or three of your fans who’ve stopped by to sing your praises (one of whom played the strong woman victim card), the vast majority of posters and even a larger group of individuals who’ve emailed me privately (and out of fear that speaking publicly would spark your negative attentions again) have related similar stories regarding your behaviour.
You picked a fight, lied, accused me of being linked to child porn (which you are now backpedaling on), and now demand that I close the comments on blog entries inspired by your own irresponsible behaviour. That is certainly ballsy.
You don’t get off that easy and it is not about being sorry or how many of your friends ask me to close the comments.
I won’t be bullied into compliance by constant badgering to close the comments and, contrary to the assertions of one of your fans, I do not need to turn the other cheek and just ”
6/22/2006 23:12:00
“I did not state that you were linked to child porn nor am I demamding that you close comments, I’m requesting. I never commented that you were linked to child porn. Please show me where I ever said child porn.
I resent that statement. This misassumption is on your part. I believe that I said teen porn was linked to you and they were.
Furthermore your actions here are most unprofessional. Keep the comments open, close the comments. I nolonger care less.
Most of those posting here are posting under made up names any how. This is nothing more than a linch mob and your continuing to keep this open demonstrates your own personal vendetta for revenge.
You were obviously offended by some things that I said to you via messenger ? and despite the fact that I?ve apologized both privately and publicly in an effort to reconcile any differences between us, you will not accept my apology. I offended you and said things out of anger; however you too have greatly offended me.
There are always two sides to every story and you refuse to even look at the other side.
I don?t know you personally nor do you know me. You?ve only convinced yourself, that I?ve committed this great crime in which I deserve to be burnt at the stake for.
I truly admit that I may have said things out of anger, but have you not said things that you wish you could take back?
Anyhow, this is all delivering traffic for you; therefore I guess what?s good for the ratings hu. DEspite if what people are commenting is true or not. You don\’t care. I only hope those who Google my name will do the proper thing and view all sides of the story.
I?m sure more anonymous commenters will be posting made up stories about how evil I am.
[URL=http://rosedesrochers.todays-woman.net]Rose DesRochers[/URL]”
“I was wondering how long it would take until she started crying victim again and began getting aggressive and incoherently indignant. Sorry Rose, but you started this mess. You don’t get to casually make false allegations, pick fights and then expect everyone else to give you a group hug just because you are now “sorry.” As if your apology had anything to do with real regret regarding your behaviour. Instead, this is about trying to silence an outlet available to other people who\’ve also been treated to your petty emotional outbursts and harassment. The fact that two of your friends are here supporting you does not invalidate the experiences of others (who have separate IPs associated with their names by the way, contrary to the lie you posted above).
Further, as I pointed out before, there is absolutely no reason to tell your readers to be shocked that my website is associated with teen porn, if you didn’t mean it in a negative way. Further, you made comments about it on BOTH of your deleted blog postings – each in an excited and shocked tone. It was despicable on your part and no amount of “I’m sorry” can make up for such a callous attempt at smearing my name. Further, the fact that you aren’t even enough of an adult to admit it speaks volumes about the sincerity of your “”apology.””
Further, I\’m not involved in a vendetta against you. The only online vendetta I was ever personally involved in nearly resulted in the aggressor (cyberbully, liar, loose cannon making threats of violence) losing his assistant professorship/participation in a Ph.D. program at a state run university in Arizona. When I’m looking to get back at someone who is unable to grok anything but power and threats with teeth behind them, I don’t play around with words on a blog. I take firm legal action that results in financial and legal harm to the offending party. Do not be confused by the difference between a few entries on a blog and an actual, real vendetta.
I simply posted my experiences regarding your childish and completely ridiculous behaviour (which your most recent comment has once again validated). Further, you have repeatedly “”asked”” me to close the comments, with each request getting a little more curt, with less time between them. Asking once is polite. Asking 8 times is akin to making a demand and an attempt at cyberbullying.
I remain unamused.”
6/23/2006 13:26:00
“For the record on this, I was in no way “conned” into closing comments on my post.
Anyone who is curious can read the whole story.
Rose admitted to me that I was in fact correct in my intial objection to the legal terms at her site. When people admit they are wrong and say they are sorry, I tend to try to forgive them (unless they repeat the behavior).
I was also not pleased about becoming a meeting-place for all of these interests, whether aggressive or defensive. Many of these issues might better have been handled by email (or, as the tone escalated, by email blocking).
I didn\’t delete the post or any of the comments. I simply closed down further uninteresting and unproductive discussion.”
Well that makes two of us who are unmused here. Believe me, I’m not crying victim as I’ve owned up to what I’ve done. I’ve apologized for what I’ve done. I’ve admited to making a comment that stated teen porn was linking to you. It was!
Despite the fact that you said I lied about that and then later said that I had said you were linked to child porn- something that I never ever said.
You allow people to post comments here that are chilidish and Discredits my character. Comments like I cannot read beyond a grade four or five level & that I’m a dangerous narcissistic psycho, menace to the internet or how about comments that they would never in a million years allow their children near me or my family. You have things like this posted to a blog about you, your wife and your children and we’ll see how angry and hurt you become.
You’ve not made appologies here to me or has anyone commenting here. So I guess I’m the only one who has ever done wrong.
You talk of attempts to smear ones name? What are you doing here- if nothing but attempting to smear my name.
Continue to provide an outlet for those with fabricated stories.
Whatever is good for the ratings Jame.
If you want to get to the top of the search engines, just write a blog post about Rose DesRochers and you are damn right I’m hurt, angry and upset but despite that I won’t let it spoil my day!
[URL=http://rosedesrochers.todays-woman.net/]Rose DesRochers – Bullying and Harassment – Vendetta and Vindictive – Enough [/URL]
“Here we go again. Rose, how am I smearing your name?
You admit you wronged me. You are guilty. This is no longer in dispute, despite the testimony from your fans. I\’ve dissected your behaviour point by point and even been kind enough to allow you to interact on my property. That is far more leniency than most wronged individuals would grant.
I have made many observations and dissected your various slurs against me in your IM slams and blog postings. Remember, just because a fact is unflattering, that doesn\’t make it a smear campaign. If it is true, stop whining about it and start changing it.
Any adult with the capacity to reason is capable of understanding the difference.
Again – if you don\’t want unflattering things said about your behaviour, then you will need to grow up and show us you\’ve changed. Stop talking about how hurt you are by the negative attention you’ve earned and stop making apologies that start off humble and remorseful but turn defensive and defiant toward the end. If you are truly sorry then be truly sorry. Don’t softpedal it. Don’t complain that people are calling you out for it. Own up to it. Change it. Transcend it.
This is what your friends (who flock around you like worshipful little drones to a Queen Bee) and fans/cult members should be telling you, instead of counselling me about deleting the evidence of your behaviour from my website.
Your record all over the internet speaks volumes. This isn’t a first time offense, so really, you shouldn’t be whining about being held accountable for your actions. As the saying goes, “talk is cheap.”
Don’t tell me you are sorry. Show me you are sorry. Feel free to start now.”
6/23/2006 21:56:00
“This woman is a flaming psychopath. She’s a cyberstalker – I have seen with my own eyes her logging in at all hours of the day & night at sites I help out with, after ego surfing for her own name. Does she ever sleep? She’s obsessive and yes, a STALKER.
And her sycophants, like this moron: http://lordmatt.co.uk/index.php?itemid=301 He’s got a cute little piccie of himself with a jaunty hat on. Like that Merriam who scolds everyone like a spinster schoolmarm as if we all need a lesson in how to behave – Rose & posse seem to the most self-involved, immature bunch.
Smear Campaign my ass. James go to http://groups.msn.com/narcissisticpersonalitydisorder – scroll down the links on the left to “”SMEAR CAMPAIGN OF THE ABUSER”” and tell me that article doesn’t have Rose’s name all over it. I am glad for sites like yours where those of us who have been hit by DesRochers Mack Truck can be VALIDATED. Otherwise we’d all be scratching our heads in a collective WTF moment wondering what happened.
She won’t apologize because she’s sick. Incurably sick. She honestly has no recollection of what she does and neither does that husband of her who 3 years ago claimed on ICQ to be a police officer. I wonder if all her posse and her husband are just her alters. She’s so deeply mentally ill – we can only hope someone takes away her keyboard and replaces it with thick crayons so we can all be safe.
She wants to know who I am? What does it matter? So she can hunt me down like she does anyone and everyone who doesn’t see things her way. James you are a fantastic & insightful writer and I would bet she’s fueled by jealousy. Of course she was after to you to write for her site – she’s got a disclaimer on there that she can use any of her writers’ stuff in whole or part. Plaguarism would be her only chance at real writing. I know junior high school kids who write better stuff – let alone her slaughter of syntax, spelling & grammer. Rose De-Malapropisms is more like it.
She will just continue on her endless cycle of come to me, badger, attack, flame, play victim, and then GOD FORBID you stick up for yourself. She is more than a classic Troll. She’s a sociopath with a working internet connection. Call this thing by its real name – a psychopath.
She’s starting it and she & her lemmings are continuing it with a real lack of wit or sarcasm. If there’s a smear campaign going on – her hands are very very dirty.”
To James and all here,
This is the reason I went to Todays Woman. If you think you are fooling anyone with your comments like that exampled here you are so wrong. Again, look at your posts and if it isn’t Bees to the Queen Bee, what is it? No person in his or her right minds would look at all of this and not understand that you are obsessed and trying now to take Rose down. Now you have found a psychological diagnosis of Rose. This is always the trump card used in circumstances like this thing and the sad part is that this type of slander does, even if it isn’t true; it can stick. In the name of common decency stop this lunacy. Don?t you people have lives outside of doing all of this on the Internet?
Todays Woman grows every day and that in itself speaks for it self at to whether all of you are believed or not. You are already trying to label me which is fine. I don?t get my identity from other people and what they may or may not say about me. I get my identity from who I know I am inside and who I am in Christ.
This is my last post, because I have better things to do than get upset about people who should have better things to do with their lives than post slander on as many Internet sites as possible.
President Clinton used a phrase during his first campaigned for his presidency. It went like this ? ?It?s the economy, stupid.? To all of you I say as respectfully as I can ? ?It?s not working, stupid.? Look at her growing writing community.
May God Bless You All,
Merriam
Merriam:
If you are really interested in making things more pleasant and resolving conflict, you will spend more time counselling your idol Rose, and less time attempting to persuade others into hushing up her misdeeds.
Rose herself has finally owned up to her bad behaviour towards me. You, however, do nothing but bash others on my blog postings for not hugging her and whispering sweet words of encouragement in her direction.
Sorry, your complete inability to even recognize Rose was wrong shows that your agenda is anything but inspired by God. You, instead of talking to your friend, tell everyone else to shut up.
Sorry, but you don’t get to stand up on a pedestal and protect your victimizing friend while telling the victims to shut up, insulting them and comparing them to insects.
I have been nice to you up until this moment. The gloves are off. You are an arrogant, excuse-making enabler Merriam. And you should be ashamed. There is nothing divine or inspired in your apologia.
6/25/2006 15:07:00
“Why is it that bullies and enablers always fall back on God? As if they are more Godly than the rest of us? You know what? I think God is getting tired of being used in this “holier than thou” fashion.
Why is it that attack dogs always ‘apologize’ yet throw in little sarcastic remarks about “things that never happened” or entitlement that belongs ONLY to them to Invalidate, Obfuscate and basically FUCK with the heads of people who stand up and tell the truth.
Why? Because they’re sick. I work with enough personality disordered people in my every day job to know. Its scary that Rose and her lemmings have been doing this for so long. Three years ago her husband was on ICQ groups moaning about how the harrassment and bullying put dear ole’ Rose in the hospital, supposedly.
And of course there\’s this beaut – http://rosedesrochers.todays-woman.net/2006/06/23/rose-desrochers-bullying-and-harassment-vendetta-and-vindictive-enough/
Directly from the belly of the beast complete with an artistic rendering of Jesus\’ trial. Now we are to associate our anger and truth telling about Kommandant DesRochers with the trial of Jesus. That\’s mental illness… the stuff for which Risperdal was made.
Growing site? really? Well we all know what the fertilizer is.
James, masterful – as always.”
“Well, I guess I will finally comment. For all those that do not know me, I am the one that Rose is concerned about that will use this blog and comments to discredit her. Sadly she appears to be doing this all by herself.
Merriam, I understand you wanting to stick up for Rose. That is admirable and that is what friends do. And as Rose put it, there are two sides to every story, and this group is only trying to voice their side. While it does show a great deal of anger, there must be a reason why they are so angry. Why is it that so many people are this angry? And trust me, this is just a very few that are angry and posting here. It is evident that something happened to cause such a response as this.
I am glad that you have only seen the good side of Rose. I, myself thought the world of Rose at one time. But, while being a member, all I saw on the forums was about this problem going on with Jeff Paris and her. After awhile, I became concerned. So, I decided to investigate the problem as I had my mothers poems on her site, and I knew my siblings would be upset if her poems were on a site that was in a war with another site. When I investigated the problem, I discovered she was just not in a war with the Paris\’s, but many other sites. So, I wrote her a long caring email which can be found at Virus Head.
Now, I get emails all the time concerning her and their story. It is like I have become a keeper of all the horrible stories. They send me their emails from Rose, which are vulgar, threatening, abusive and libel. Not only that, but I copy and paste all I read on this before it can be deleted. Since doing so, I have seen many times where she has lied over and over again, and I have the proof. Most of this proof has already been deleted or discontinued from the Internet.
And, as far as smear campaigns, I suggest one google Invision Graphics Jeff Devrie. There are two forums available where they are smeared over and over again, one being 12 pages long, and they were never allowed to comment or defend themselves. I would give the links, but I have been banned.
I hate to be unkind, but Rose does posses Psycho behavior. I researched a great deal of information on this type of behavior. Crying victim is one of the traits. Also, she writes about her being sick, and one time when she wrote about going to the hospital for 6 hours in the evening as her children and husband made her go. Thing is, the hospital must have a computer there just like hers, as she was on my sitemeter several times during the time period she said she was there. This is considered a trait of \””everyone feel sorry for me.\””
I for one asked James to leave the comments up in private email. Hopefully all this will make Rose think twice before she messes with people. And Rose has many people she needs to apologize to. She needs to turn over a new leaf and consider other peoples feelings, and not just hers.
Katie[URL=http://yngathrrt.blogspot.com]Psychopath Behavior[/URL]”
“Katie – your post is good but I just want to point out one thing. Calling Rose or anyone \””psycho\”” is more a pop-culture reference. Even though it may be true please use the correct term psychopath or sociopath in the future. Yes, I agree – she fits every one of the criteria for the disorder. I too have seen her logging on & off at 3 sites I do tech work for at all hours of the day and night after telling the site owner she wanted nothing further to do with them.
Rose never sleeps it seems. And btw – if she is a psychopath? She will NEVER turn over a new leaf because she\’s seriously mentally ill. Female psychopaths never get better with age. They get a lot worse.”
“Hi Anne, thanks for pointing the right terminology concerning “”psycho”” and psychopath. I agree with you, and I will in the future try to use it correctly. LOL It is “”pop-culture”” and I am actually embarrased that I used it that way.
I also want to point out that I did not call her a psycho, better term psychopath, I just expressed that she exibited this type of behavior. And this has been shown over and over again with her.
Anne, thank you for pointing out the correct terminology, and trust me, I will remember it forever. (Kind of like when my mom use to tell me, “”don’t say where is it at, just say where is it””. I never use AT after this type of sentence anymore.
I would like to add just a few more statements that have come to my attention. Without going into the history of it all, and it is fairly new, these links are provided which gives more detail into this never ending story of how and what Rose does.
In ending, if she is not a psychopath, she might be able to turn over a new leaf and learn from all of this, and time will tell. Guess where my bet would be concerning this!
[URL=http://poopersscoops.typepad.com/poopers_scoops/2006/06/rose_desrochers.html]Rose DesRochers a B.B. Wannabe?[/URL]
[URL=http://poopersscoops.typepad.com/poopers_scoops/2006/06/places_you_shou.html]Places (you should ) Go[/URL]”
I wanted to make a comment on Rose being banned from writing sites. She was banned also from Absolute Write twice. She used screen names of Swtdesrose & BubblesR. I guess this slipped her mind when she said that she was only banned from one writing site. Actaully, she was banned from several sites besides writing sites. Maybe not under her name of Rose, but other screen names.
I just wanted to clear that up for those here, and as you can see, she lies about these things.
[URL=http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524&page=182&pp=25]Absolutewrite[/URL] Just scroll down the page and you will see the links you can click on and it will explain why she was banned.
Katie
Wowsa!! I was extremely suprised when I ran across this forum. I had similiar run ins with Rose, that had me questioning myself and what I had done to deserve such harsh treatment from her. My relationship with Rose began back in 2000 when I created a website in memory of my daughter whom I had lost to SIDS in 1994. At that time Rose was running a site called AMONG FRIENDS, I was eager to become friends with her and labeled myself a member of her site. She created many awards for me to post on my daughters website. I was in desperate need of understanding, someone who had lost a child as well and knew what I was going through. I thought I had found that with Rose……
Roses site Among Friends fell threw and I lost contact with her…A couple years later I was doing a search on writing communities and found TODAYS_WOMAN. I was so happy to find out that Rose was the founder. I instantly became a member, posting, commenting and encouraging others in the community including Rose. Now please keep in mind I am not a proffesional WRITER, as I am sure you can tell by my post here :). My writings that I posted were more of expression and out pour of my grief. It was a WAY OF COPING.
Aprox a year after being a member..My mother became extremely Ill and was diagnosed with cancer. Right away I turned to Rose and the community for encouagement. I explained to Rose that my activeness within the group would diminish for awhile due to the fact I would be taking care of my mother. I tried to keep her updated but being a wife and mother of 4 boys and trying to take care of my own mother my time was very limited. Finally my mother made a full recovery and I was then able to find time to return to Todays-Woman only to find my account had been deleted along with all my writings. My heart was broken I thought Rose cared about me and what was happening in my life…but I came to realize that I was nothing more that a NUMBER on her site. I emailed her trying to figure it out and she became extremely RUDE and Hostile with me…She even went as far as banning my IP address from the community. I would understand her deleting my account had I just disappeared and she had no idea what happened to me…But I sent MANY MANY emails to her…in regards to my situation.
I blamed myself completely for our fall out (she has a way of placing blame on others)…But after reading this I realize I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE!!
Thanks!
8/6/2006 14:38:00
You are for sure NOT THE ONLY ONE. Far from it. You are just another person in a long line of people she has hurt, pissed off, threatened and lied to.
Sadly, she has hurt more people than pissed them off (that came later.) I am so sorry she treated you this way, especially since you were going through so much while trying to care for your mother. But I am far from surpised that she did this to you. Clearly she has no compasion for others, as I have heard about this treatment over and over again.
Take care and good luck to you. My wishes that your mother continues to do well.
Katie
Thank you Katie and yes my mother is doing very well it seems as though she is one of the lucky ones with a FULL recovery. It has been a rough road for hersef and our family but we are making it through.
A part of me feels extremely sorry for Rose that she does not have the strength to seek help for herself and instead resorts to lashing her anger, hurt and grief out onto others. And it seems as though her husband may have the same issues or is just majorly co-dependent and he as well needs to seek some kind of guidance.
Take Care Katie!!
8/7/2006 16:28:00
If nothing else, Rose did teach me a valuable lesson, which is to research before I become involved in any type of site, and to research well.
Sadly, people like her do not look for help as they feel they do not need help and everyone is wrong and they are the only ones that are right.
I am so glad to hear about your mother. I have a brother that was in final stages of colon cancer and is now cancer free.
[URL=http://yngathrrt.blogspot.com/2006/02/miracles-in-final-stages-of-cancer-do.html]Miracles In Final Stages Of Cancer[/URL]
Still, I am so sorry of the treatment you received, as the Internet is full of these kind of people, but thankfully, there are also some wonderful people on the Internet also.
Katie
I have been following all this back and forth babble about the woman with thorns…mainly because I went through what all of you, even the ones who defend her, have. It’s true, she sucks you into her “lovely little garden” site with flattering talk…albeit grossly misspelled. At first you just think it is an oversight, her inability to communicate and write intelligently, then you start opening your eyes, as people get bad mouthed and suddenly disappear. I, too, was a favored child until she had a bad day without her meds, and the mask came off, and I felt the ripping of her thorns in my flesh. Boy was I shocked! At least I had the presence of mind to copy and paste and store. I stayed as long as I could stomach it, because of the amazing friends I’d made on her site. Again, I was smart enough to get their emails and converse apart from her prying eyes. Having a network of friends who knew exactly what had happened, was my saving grace. To this day I am amazed at how widespread her poison is, and how she still plays the victim. As far as I can see, there is no reasoning with someone like this. She is what she is. Thank God, I am who I am!!!