Dr. Ivan Eland, Senior Fellow and Director of the Center on Peace & Liberty at the Independent Institute on Weapons of Mass Destruction Are Overrated as a Threat to America
David Kay, the president’s handpicked weapons of mass destruction snoop in Iraq, has resigned and criticized U.S. intelligence for not realizing that Iraqi weapons programs were in disarray. He now thinks that the stocks of chemical and biological weapons were destroyed in the 1990s — out of fear that U.N. weapons inspectors would discover them — and that new production was not initiated. He also believes that Iraq’s nuclear program had been restarted but was only at a very primitive stage — hardly the imminent threat alleged by the Bush administration as a justification for immediate war. So with the final nail being driven into the coffin of the administration’s main rationale for war against Iraq, Iraqi weapons programs are not the only things in disarray. After Kay’s initial comments, Secretary of State Colin Powell had to admit that the Iraqi government may no longer have had such arms.
Perhaps Kay’s findings will finally cause the American public to heed the Iraq war critics call to hold the administration accountable for the deaths of more than 500 American service personnel and countless innocent Iraqis (which, strangely, the American government cannot seem to estimate). But let’s not hold our breath. The September 11 tragedy gave the Bush administration body armor that is only now developing chinks. And Kay’s findings help debunk the Iraqi threat but may actually cloud other issues. First, Kay blames U.S. intelligence for not realizing that Iraq’s weapons programs were in shambles. This conclusion is valid, but fits into the administration’s desire to scapegoat U.S. spy agencies to hide its own twisting and embellishing of the already faulty intelligence information.
Read the rest of Dr. Eland's commentary here. This entry also posted at Stand Down.
Defense Enterprise Fund (DEF) is a US Congress-financed program to convert former Russian producers of weapons of mass destruction (nuclear, biological chemical). DEF is a venture capital fund that was supposed to bring profit to the US Treasury. Yet, DEF lost its entire $67M grant in shady deals with Russian mafia figures, and its conversion mission has not been accomplished. The US Government knowingly and blatantly misrepresents DEF’s operational results.
More information (including two Department of Defense Audits) is here
http://nunn-lugar.com/def/
2/3/2004 7:28:00
Dr. Ivan Eland’s OPINIONS about David Kay and his ASSERTIONS about what David Kay THINKS are CRAP.
They are the mouthings of a petulant peacenick who wouldn’t protect his own family if it meant picking up a stick.
Posted by Robert Kessler on February 6, 2004 06:54 PM
Go enlist Kessler. Then come back and talk to me about “picking up a stick.”
February 29, 2004 10:40 PM
INTELLIGENCE FAILURE OR COVERUP? READ
BRIEF:UNPROVEN Justfying War in Iraq
PREFACE: {Part 1 of 2}
I ask that you read the following and if so inclined, post it anywhere you can. As it is Imperative that we get the Truth out to the American People, the rest of the world already knows the truth. But we have a media that is fully engaged in a nefarious Cover-up with the Bush Administration.
The threat that bush administrations poses to America Democracy and to the rest of the world is real, immense and insideous. The extent of this nefarious agenda == runs to the core of Our Democracy. Has Nothing to do with party line, republican-democrat, conservative-liberal.
George Orwell’s book 1984 warning of the Nefarious evolution of our gov’t Is-Now-Here.
It is imperative that we who know the truth,
to aggressively, with courage of our convictions, use every form of communication and resource to EXPOSE the Dangers that the Bush Administraion
poses to America, and to the rest of the world.
To Do This requires that we use the psychological factor, known as “perception management” to the fullest advantage. What I mean is, we must counter the extraordinary amount of propaganda, lies and distortions of which the “Free Press” is complicit in…we must understand the PSYOPS of the media and EXPOSE it for what it is.
The INTERNET is The Hellish “Telescreen” of which George Orwell wrote. Where Massive Amount of Misinformation, lies and distortions and propaganda flourish.
We Must Become Serious and organize citizens’ groups beginning in every city across the country… where we can meet weekly to discuss the threat of the foreign and domestic policys of this administrations. Including TIPS, Patriot Act….
Enlighten each citizen about PSYOPS, the Media use of, how to reconize it and how to counter it.
The Coalitions that got Bush Elected are running Rampant, are exceedingly dangerous and committed to a ingrained DISTORTED VISION of a Crusade with GOD.
RUPERT MURDOCH is a major player is This poisioning of the flow of information, employing all like minded executives, correspondents and personel, so to ensure the “Correct Information” is reported.
This Is My View of the Clear and Present Danger that The Bush Adminstration Poses To Our World…and it is CORRECT.
The following is the message of which I ask All to Review and POST where ever you can, if so Inclined.
Thank You
Desiree Yagan
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I SAY TO YOU BLIND FAITH IN GOD NOT MAN
THIS IS OUR COUNTRY. All Citizens Must Refuse To Submit Nor Allow Ourselves to be Deceived, Coerced, Manipulated into Becoming a SUBSERVIENT MONOLITHIC, OBEDIENT POPULATION.
To Blindly Follow,
a President {Who Many Profess Is APPOINTED By GOD} to Lead a Christian Crusade in The Name of War into The Middle East. NEVER TO BE CHALLENGED, SERIOUSLY QUESTIONED OR HOLD ACCOUNTABLE? Even When His Actions, Beacon Our Conscience For Answers.
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THIS ADMINISTRATION REFUSES TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
THIS ADMINISTRATION MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO SELECT THE PANEL FOR THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. THAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CONGRESS, NOT OF A PRESIDENT.
IF THERE IS NO CULPABILITY FOR THE DISTORTIONS OF THE INTELLIGENCE ABOUT IRAQ?S WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, THEN AMERICAN CITIZENS MUST KNOW.
BUT IF THERE WAS DELIBERATE DISTORTING OF THE INTELLIGENCE?WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO KNOW! BEFORE THE ELECTIONS NOT AFTER!
IT MUST BE CONGRESS THAT APPOINTS THE PANEL NOT THE PRESIDENT. THAT IS HOW A DEMOCRACY WORKS.
THIS PREVENTS ANY APPEARANCE OF IMPROPER INFLUENCE, FAVOR OR BIAS BEING USED, WHEN SELECTING THE MEMBERS AND HOW THE INVESTIGATION IS CONDUCTED.
THE INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION MUST RELEASE AN INTERIM = REPORT REGARDING PRESIDENT BUSH AND HIS ADMINISTRATION?S PART IN {IF ANY} IN THE MANIPULATION AND DISTORTION OF INTELLIGENCE WHICH WAS PRESENTED TO THE UNITED NATIONS AND TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
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AMERICA WENT TO WAR__ ON THE BASIS
WHICH PRESIDENT BUSH HAD STATED UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT SADDAM HAD WMDS.
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAD NO RIGHT TO ASSERT WMDS AND IMMINENT DANGER TO AMERICA?IF IT DID NOT EXIST.
NO MATTER HOW ==== MUCH A TYRANT SADDAM WAS AND ALL THE OTHER REASONS THE PRESIDENT MAY COME UP WITH. THE SHIFTING STORIES CANNOT BE TOLERATED IN OUR COUNTRY AS JUSTIFICATION FOR A PREEMPTORY WAR.
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AMERICA?S CREDIBILITY HAS BEEN SERIOUSLY DAMAGED. {PLEASE READ THE TEXT ENTITLED UNPROVEN: CONTROVERSY JUSTIFYING WAR IN IRAQ}
THE REASON IS OBVIOUS, REGARDLESS HOW ONE FEELS, NOW, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THIS PREEMPTORY WAR IN IRAQ WAS WORTH THE LIVES OF OUR SOLDIERS AND THE THOUSANDS OF CAUSALITIES OR NOT.
WE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH?CAN YOU TRUST THIS PRESIDENT?
{Permission to Post Everywhere is Granted and Encouraged} I Need Your Help In Getting The Word Out!
MY NAME IS DESIREE YAGAN.
I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT AND STAND FOR
JUSTICE 4 ALL.
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We Must Not Be Blinded By Our Fear or Patriotic Fervor.
WAR IS JUST Only When it is to Protect Freedom, Liberty and Our Nation. This War-of-Choice Is Not, And Never, Will Be Just.
My Name is Desiree Yagan. I am Passionate About
and Stand for __JUSTICE 4 ALL.
yagan911intelli4@aol.com
http://www.usacitizens4truth.com/desireeyagan.html
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In War Some Facts, Less Factual
How The Media Impacts Our Beliefs
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p01s02-wosc.html
2/11/2004 11:36:00
INTELLIGENCE FAILURE OR COVERUP? READ BRIEF: UNPROVEN Justfying War in Iraq
PREFACE: {Page 2 of 2}
I SAY TO YOU BLIND FAITH IN GOD NOT MAN
THIS IS OUR COUNTRY. All Citizens Must Refuse To Submit Nor Allow Ourselves to be Deceived, Coerced, Manipulated into Becoming a SUBSERVIENT MONOLITHIC, OBEDIENT POPULATION.
To Blindly Follow,
a President {Who Many Profess Is APPOINTED By GOD} to Lead a Christian Crusade in The Name of War into The Middle East. NEVER TO BE CHALLENGED, SERIOUSLY QUESTIONED OR HOLD ACCOUNTABLE? Even When His Actions, Beacon Our Conscience For Answers..
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GEORGE ORWELLS BOOK “1984”
The INTERNET is The Hellish “Telescreen” of which George Orwell wrote. Where Massive Amount of Misinformation, lies and distortions and propaganda flourish. Where HATE SPEECH Is Spread like poision, to Demonize Our Enemys and Target those who QUESTION OUR MOTIVES. AMERICA BEWARE !
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READ THIS REPORT: UNPROVEN THE CONTROVERSY OVER JUSTIFYING WAR IN IRAQ
THEN DECIDE __DO YOU WANT A DEMOCRACY, OR A MONARCHY?
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[The Controversy over Justifying War in Iraqi]
http://www.fourthfreedom.org/php/t-d-index.php?hinc=Unproven.hinc
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CONCLUSION:
?A strategy of preventive attack depends fundamentally on accurate intelligence and the proper use of that intelligence. Before using military force to strike against another nation or a terrorist network, decision makers must have solid information regarding the exact nature of the threat. But if political leaders and elected officials cannot know reliably whether an alleged threat is legitimate, how are they to decide when a preemptive attack is justified??
?If the problem in Iraq was not intelligence but the way information was selectively interpreted and misrepresented, this raises doubts about the integrity of political decision making.?
If U.S. and UK leaders presented false or misleading information to their legislatures and world opinion, this threatens the very foundations of democracy.
? Government deceit is always a matter of concern, but it is especially troubling when it involves the most vital issues of national security and becomes the basis for a decision to go to war.?
It is vital that investigators get to the bottom of these issues as they Probe The Unproven Case For War.
Policy Brief F12A UNPROVEN __Controversy Over Justifying The Case for War in Iraq.
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USA LIED ABOUT IRAQ?S WEAPONS
{Reports Norwegian Weapons Inspector} AFTENPOSTEN NORWAY NEWSPAPER
?Much of what he said, was wrong. It did not match up at all with our information. The entire speech was misleading? ?The information Powell presented about Iraq?s nuclear program was simply incorrect?
?Much of what he said was wrong. It did not match up at all with our information. The entire Speech was misleading”
__Joern Siljeholm {Norwegian Weapons Inspector}
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/world/article.jhtml?articleID=511811
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WHAT IS THE TRUTH? IS IT “INTELLIGENCE FAILURE?…ONCE AGAIN? OR IS IT A COVER-UP?
AMERICA MUST KNOW? OUR CREDIBILITY HERE AND IN THE WORLD COMMUNITY, IS ON THE LINE.
{Permission to Post Everywhere is Granted and Encouraged} I Need Your Help In Getting The Word Out!
MY NAME IS DESIREE YAGAN. I AM PASSIONATE
ABOUT AND STAND FOR JUSTICE 4 ALL.
http://www.usacitizens4truth.com/desireeyagan.html
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We Must NOT Be Blinded By Our Fear or Patriotic Fervor.
WAR IS JUST Only When it is to Protect Freedom, Liberty and Our Nation. This War-Of-Choice Is Not, And Never…Will Be Just.
My Name is Desiree Yagan. I am Passionate
About and Stand for __JUSTICE 4 ALL.
yagan911intelli4@aol.com
http://www.usaacitizens4truth.com/desireeyagan.html
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In War Some Facts, Less Factual
How The Media Impacts Our Beliefs
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p01s02-wosc.html
2/11/2004 11:55:00